Dirt simple CSS question

  • This is really embarrassing but I can't figure out how to use the CSS command 'width'. I want to be able to use it in the context of an embedded command, as follows. Imagine I write: "The fox jumped over the lazy dog.". Ideally that sentence would then appear formatted to a width of 25 (or whatever) pixels. The manuals and the online sites all make me think this should be possible. But nothing I do works. I'm beginning to wonder if "width" doesn't work as an embedded command. But surely that is wrong.


  • Whoops. I see that what I want to do is called 'inline,' not 'embedded'. Embedded means the command is at the top of the HTML document. I want to put the command next to the text it is supposed to control. That relationship is called 'inline'.


  • hapgood-ga: Can you clarify what exactly it is you are expecting to see when you use the width property as the inline style for the span? For example, are you expecting that the font size will automatically change in order to fit the sentence into the width? If so, then that is not what the width property will do, all it does it help the browser decide when a new line is needed. If a word in the span is longer than the space defined by the width property, that word will not be truncated or scaled to fit; instead, the browser will go to a new line after the word. So, the example you included above works absolutely as designed. Can you please tell us what you are expecting to see, so that we can advise you accordingly? Regards, aht-ga Google Answers Researcher


  • > Can you clarify what exactly it is you are expecting to see when you > use the width property as the inline style for the span? > For example, are you expecting that the font size will automatically > change in order to fit the sentence into the width? Not at all. I'm expecting the sentence to be reformatted into a single column like this: I'm expecting the sentence to be reformatted into a single column. > So, the example you included above works absolutely as designed. It doesn't for me. To repeat: if I type the code "This is a sentence." Nothing happens. The sentence runs all across the entire page. But if I replace the above code with "

    This is a sentence.

    " instead, changing nothing else, then I do get the desired behavior, except with a bit of complexity having to do with the 'p' properties. Why is this? What is going on here? If the "p style" code works how come the "span style" doesn't? Aren't they functional equivalents from a CSS point of view? This is driving me batty.


  • hapgood-ga: Thanks for the clarification. The reason why you are seeing the problem, is because the width property is specifically not applicable to inline elements... and the tag is specifically used for grouping inline elements, so officially the width property is not applicable to spans. W3C: Block-level and inline elements http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#edef-SPAN W3C: Visual formatting model details http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/visudet.html#propdef-width So, if you are using Mozilla Firefox, or Opera, as your browser, then you will see the results that you are seeing. If, however, you are using Internet Explorer (at least versions 6 or 7, as far as I'm aware), then the width attribute does work with SPAN, because Microsoft chose to go beyond the W3C specifications: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/properties/width_2.asp Interestingly, Microsoft refers to the CSS1 specification where the 'width' attribute is defined; yet, in that very specification, it specifies that 'width' only applies to block-level and replaced elements, not to inline elements such as SPAN. So, to answer your final question, the difference between P and SPAN, is that P is a block-level element, while SPAN is an inline element. Since 'width' only applies to block-level and replaced elements, a browser that strictly conforms to the W3C specifications (such as Firefox or Opera) will ignore the 'width' attribute within a SPAN tag, while a less-strict browser such as Internet Explorer, will let it work. Note that if your page design permits you to replace your SPAN tag with a properly-used DIV, then you can use the width attribute. Regards, aht-ga Google Answers Researcher







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